Can Loopy on iPad output live to Bluetooth speaker, from external mic?

Hey all,

I want to sing my flute through Loopy on the iPad and hear the flute live with reverb effects, over my Bluetooth speaker.
I have a lavalier jack mic for the flute recording, that's connected with the iPad via a "Lightning to Headphone Jack Adapter"

And I cannot get it to work.

Some results:

  • Loopy is recording ok from the external lavalier mic via the lightning port, but I cannot hear any of the recorded loops or any live sound on either the iPad built-in speakers or the Bluetooth speaker.
  • When I remove the mic from the lightning port, the recorded loops do come out, but ONLY via the iPad built-in speakers

Here's what I am using:

  • iPad mini 4
  • Boom Bluetooth speaker
  • A simple lavalier mic with a jack that I connected to a Lightning Headphone jack adapter, which I then plugged into the iPad bottom port
  • The flute :)

Would be super grateful if anyone could guide me on how to set this up!

Thanks so much!

Comments

  • Hey!

    You won’t be able to use a Bluetooth speaker for live stuff – Bluetooth has an inherent latency which is totally inimical to live use. It really needs to be wired set up.

  • Thanks @Michael for the quick response, I can imagine it’s not easy keeping up with all the requests and support.

    Do you have any recommendations or can you guide me what gear options to buy and what settings I need to set, in order for my ipad mini 4 + loopy + flute instrument to work, so that I can output live effects over the flute, and hear them over speakers (i am open to speakers recommendations too) in addition to obviously creating loops?

    I know this question may fall beyond your software, but I absolutely love the product and looking for ways to get this working.

    Many thanks!

  • I’m afraid I don’t have any specific suggestions - I’m a software guy and don’t have much gear experience. Try asking on the discord, or maybe the Audiobus forum

  • owiowi
    edited April 22

    @shull said:

    Do you have any recommendations or can you guide me what gear options to buy and what settings I need to set, in order for my ipad mini 4 + loopy + flute instrument to work, so that I can output live effects over the flute, and hear them over speakers (i am open to speakers recommendations too) in addition to obviously creating loops?

    Many thanks!

    when you want to record a flute, you will have to use a (dynamic)microphone. and when you want to hear your recording over speaker/s you will need one or two of them (maybe battery-powered).
    microphne and speakers will be connected via an audio-interface to a usb-hub and that will be connected to the ipad via an apple usb3-lightning adapter
    https://www.amazon.de/Lightning-to-USB3-Camera-Adapter/dp/B01DGDNL2G/ref=asc_df_B01DGDNL2G/?tag=googshopde-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=214439841299&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8380967799366172214&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9043405&hvtargid=pla-475817252367&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

    maybe you will power your gear with a usb-powerbank, then you will need one too. the exactly fitting cables that are neccessary to connect the audio- and usb-components, you will find by exploring the in- and output-connectors of your gear.
    sorry that i can not recommend specific gear, but i am here in germany and do not know what you can get in your location.

  • @owi this is awesome information!
    I am based in Canada, if you can be so kind and recommend me some gear.

    Please share any recommendations for gear below - it would be super generous of you, and would make my day!

    1. (dynamic)microphone - one that's easy to attach to the flute and work on the go, not at home (would this need a power supply also)?
    2. battery-powered speakers <-- not looking for high end quality or crazy loudness, just something that works on the go
    3. audio-interface
    4. usb-powerbank - one that works between the iPad and the usb3-lightning adapter, so it can charge the ipad
    5. apple usb3-lightning adapter <-- this one is clear, thanks!
  • Depends on your budget too.
    Audio interface: personally I would go with RME. Rocksolid and stable. Lowest latency. RME Fireface UCX or Babyface Pro FS.

  • Thanks @psyndrome

    I googled this one just now "mackie-m-caster-portable", that do you think?
    https://www.samash.com/mackie-m-caster-portable-live-streaming-mixer-mmcastliv?cm_mmc=GoogleShopping--Live%20Sound%20&%20Lighting--Channeladvisor-_-Mackie+M-Caster+Live+PORTABLE+LIVE+STREAMING+MIXER+Black&utm_source=GSH&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=Channeladvisor&CAWELAID=

    And any thoughts on what dynamic mic, battery speakers and usb-powerbank I should get?

  • owiowi
    edited April 23

    @shull said:
    @owi this is awesome information!
    I am based in Canada, if you can be so kind and recommend me some gear.

    Please share any recommendations for gear below - it would be super generous of you, and would make my day!

    1. (dynamic)microphone - one that's easy to attach to the flute and work on the go, not at home (would this need

    a power supply also)?

    maybe you could use your lavalier mic with an interface.

    an option for another mic (not dynamic but with cardioid polar pattern to avoid feedback when used with speakers:
    https://www.tomleemusic.ca/151842

    1. battery-powered speakers <-- not looking for high end quality or crazy loudness, just something that works on the go

    https://cosmomusic.ca/products/behringer-europort-mpa40bt-pro-40w-portable-pa-system

    i use two of them

    1. audio-interface

    https://www.long-mcquade.com/?page=search&amp;SearchTxt=zoom u22

    if you need only one input for the mic this should be ok.

    i have the zoom u44 with 4 ins and 4 outs.

    1. usb-powerbank - one that works between the iPad and the usb3-lightning adapter, so it can charge the ipad

    something like this should be ok:
    https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B07YZ4FFNZ/ref=sr_1_8?crid=33I2IP5Y9GLM3&amp;keywords=power+bank+usb+a&amp;qid=1650731990&amp;sprefix=power+bank+usb+a,aps,223&amp;sr=8-8&amp;th=1

    1. apple usb3-lightning adapter <-- this one is clear, thanks!
  • @shull said:

    Do you have any recommendations or can you guide me what gear options to buy and what settings I need to set, in order for my ipad mini 4 + loopy + flute instrument to work, so that I can output live effects over the flute

    for using effects etc. i would consider buying loopy pro.
    that would make everything easier for you.

  • edited April 26

    @owi thanks so much for your recommendations! this really helps me a lot!

    I got the Loopy Pro, all good there :-)

    Only thing I wasn't sure in your list is if you can connect from Loopy to the Audio Interface and from there to the Behringer speakers? Because the speakers seem to only have Mic Input, and Michael mentioned you cannot stream Loopy to a speaker via Bluetooth either. Or do you think if I just plug the audio interface straight into one of the Mic inputs of the speakers will work? Sorry for being a dummy here :)))

  • @shull said:
    @owi thanks so much for your recommendations! this really helps me a lot!

    I got the Loopy Pro, all good there :-)

    Only thing I wasn't sure in your list is if you can connect from Loopy to the Audio Interface and from there to the Behringer speakers? Because the speakers seem to only have Mic Input, and Michael mentioned you cannot stream Loopy to a speaker via Bluetooth either. Or do you think if I just plug the audio interface straight into one of the Mic inputs of the speakers will work? Sorry for being a dummy here :)))

    yes, that works.

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