Loopy: Masterpiece Edition - the journey begins

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  • edited December 2020

    @Michael said:

    @JonasV said:

    @Michael said:

    The most advanced (but I don’t think any looper does this yet and it’s probably not even possible for now) would be if Loopy analyzed the “microphone in” signal, and subtracted the sound of the “out to speaker” signal from it. That way it would remove (or at least reduce) the sound of existing running loops bleeding into a new loop you made.

    Already got this covered! I’ve developed a non-distorting acoustic echo cancellation system. Also works for external audio gear (mics/monitors etc)

    Wow that's just amazing! Is it so good that it manages to remove the loop bleeding when using Loopy with the device's internal speaker+microphone? (which is by far the most extreme case of loop bleeding)

    It depends a little on the environment; if it’s sitting on a hard surface which conducts the sound from speaker to mic really effectively it only helps a little right now, but in my office setup on a stand it almost completely eliminates the direct path; one can hear very quiet room echoes only. Future improvements are probable; I just ran out of designated time for that little project.

    I've spoken about upcoming Loopy Pro to Darren (Beardyman). As I'm sure you've seen, his system is super complex, but uses Ableton as its brains, which isn't optimized for live loop recording/playback like Loopy is. Doesn't have latency compensation, and surely uses much more CPU than Loopy Pro will.
    With all these features Loopy Pro is getting, I could definitely see it be used as the brains of many audio systems, such as Darrens Beardytron.

    This loop bleeding/echo cancellation you talked about is mind-blowing to me. Up until now one of the greatest downsides of live looping vs live instrument playing was the fact that live looping had this "loops bleeding into loops" problem, wheras with live instruments you would just get feedback if you really push the gain and volume too far.
    This changes completely if you have bleed/echo cancellation. I had dreamed of this years ago but thought it would be impossible or too CPU-intensive.

  • edited December 2020

    Maximum hype for upcoming Loopy Pro!

  • 😆

    Yeah, I think it's gonna be pretty good!! Can't wait to get it out the door.

  • Hi Michael - one of the things that attracted me to Loopy HD was that you could touch and manipulate the loops.

    Sorry if this has been covered, but are you planning on increasing the loop touching functionality with this new loopy iteration that you're working on?

    While I could touch the loops, they never behaved the way I wanted - I had hoped that touching the loop would be like manipulating a turntable, going backwards as well as forwards freely.

    Going further, it would be great if one could touch the loop and move it through a scale, The recently released Gauss looper has a control strip where you can move it in pre-determined increments (100%, 150%, 200% forwards and backwards) This is a great start (And I have contacted Bram Bos about this as well) but to be able to take something you've just recorded and move through a scale (with all the unpredictably that that would engender) would be really cool. Samplr does many things, but it doesn't do this - Gauss is the closest.

    thank you!

  • I've bought new microphones, and looking at a new camera, to make new live looping song videos once Loopy Pro comes out. Will integrate it into my rig as soon as it does. Hype! :)

  • Can I help with betatesting? My mail is [email protected]

  • HI MICHAEL
    Well, now if you search 'Loopy HD' into youtube i'm VERY proud to say that my video tutorial is the first link (with my advanced tutorial being number 4!).
    I absolutely LOVE loopy HD and always recommend it. If you need a Beta / TestFlight tester for Loopy Pro then i'm all for it. :)

    patienceisavirtue

  • Brilliant, @johnpaulmusicuk! And thanks heaps for making it - and for the kind words.

    I'd definitely like your assistance when the time comes! Not long now.

  • edited April 13

    Hey Michael, any ETA on when the app will be available? I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it must be for you so please don't take this the wrong way. I LOVE loopy the way it is right now. But of course it has its limitations and I wish there was a killer app on the store that I could always rely on...

    But I am considering buying a BOSS RC-505 and god knows I don't want to, cause I feel like digital is the way of the future instead of carrying around something so bulky that serves only one purpose. Doesn't make sense to me.

    So, yeah, do you have any idea as to how long it might take you?

    Keep up the great work! All the best.

    HK

  • @johnpaulmusicuk I have watched your tutorials on repeat. :smile: They are awesome. Thanks for making them! @emotimon ... I keeping looking at the 505 also, but with a $75 nanoKontrol 2 and Loopy's custom midi-map programming, I can have fader/knob volume control on 12 tracks vs. 5. The one feature I'm looking for, that I haven't been able to duplicate reliably yet is the pitch shifter/guitar to bass.

    I expect I'll pick up a 505 at some point ... but it's hard for me to justify the expense for fewer tracks. For another $75 I can use another nK2 on my iphone, connect them both to my mixer, and fade/switch between them. That's my current experiment. : )

    And yes, Michael, you have many fans awaiting this new release!

  • Sorry about the delay, @emotimon. It's coming! Already in early alpha testing.

  • edited May 6

    @riverchoir @emotimon
    I was also seriously looking at the RC-505 a few years back. But then stubbornly stuck to iOS and various software, in hopes of a tool like Loopy Pro to come along. My 2 cents on the matter: if I were you I'd wait for Loopy Pro. It will blow the RC-505 away, especially in terms of modularity. You will be able to make your own custom rig rather than being stuck with a handful of configurations and effects. It's so close, would be too bad to give in now. Cheers!

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